Climate Change: What’s up? Maybe not temperature?

We had a wonderful discussion on Nov. 23rd about the implications and ways of conceiving of global climate change. While we work on editing the Daf, here are some of the links to data and sides of the controversy for readers to see and comment upon.

A scandal that leading climate change scientists hid or falsified data: Is it true? Even if it is, does that affect how we should think about climate change?

Apparently, while land temperatures have risen, sea (70% of the earth) temperatures have not, according to
Satellite-derived temperature graphs . Everyone knows that asphalt or rock is hotter than grass or forest. So urbanization, desertification, and deforestation for sure make it locally hotter, but actual global temperatures–moderated by the sea–may not be rising all that quick.

Glaciers and polar ice are certainly receding though: Graphs of sea ice extent in Arctic.

An online debate sponsored by ‘Monk’ (not the tv show, alas) on climate change:

Yaakov’s vote for best blog on global climate change
Blog representing the establishment view on climate change

First super-high-resolution model projection that the ancient
“Fertile Crescent” will disappear in this century

Dr. Roger Pielke’s position statements on climate change:

Landcover Changes may Rival Greenhouse Gases as Cause of Climate Change.

So what’s going on? Do you even care? Are we all doomed, or are there bigger problems in the world? Is Al Gore a prophet or is he full of hot air?


One Response to “Climate Change: What’s up? Maybe not temperature?”

  1. mushroom Says:

    The problem is the attitude with which the data was handled. Raw data was destroyed. Skeptics were shut down. Criticism was rejected. The evidence is that the experts “know what is best for us”. Science, of course, does not work that way.

    Ground/sea temperatures are part of it. I think, too, the models predicted warming in the troposhere and cooling in the stratosphere — I’m doing that from memory, so I may be wrong as well as misspelling. There is some indication that graphs were altered or the axes were changes to make it appear that the data agreed with the model when it did not.

    It is wise to conserve energy, develop cleaner alternatives, and use fewer resources, but we should not be forced into compliance with harsh and punitive regulations by government. Nor should we be frightened by the quasi-religious declamations of frauds. Mr. Gore is not a prophet. He may be a sucker, or he may be a con-man. He certainly stands to profit in the cap-and-trade business.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )


Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: